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All of the errors in the essay are encapsulated with this:
QUOTE: Twenty Years Later, 'An Inconvenient Truth' Has Been Thoroughly Debunked... He uses a prop lift to show that we have the highest CO2 levels yet, and within 50 years, or 2056, he expects the concentration of CO2 will be well over 750ppm, doubling in a matter of decades. It's currently around 420ppm. When the movie was made, two decades ago, it was 380ppm. At that rate of increase, it would take 185 years from when he made his prediction to reach 750ppm. The projected rate of increase in CO2 assumed humans did not attempt to mitigate their carbon emissions. In fact, humans have made significant efforts to reduce their carbon emissions.
Old curmudgeon: Who cares? The town never burned down before. The townsfolk put out the fire while the curmudgeon watches. Old curmudgeon: See. Told you the town wouldn't burn down. Climate AGW was always a government created narrative to provide government with more power and control over their citizens. Cut off the cash promotion and the problem disappears. It reminds me of the Covid cash and the current protest funding. The authoritarians are fuming.
"Significant" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your comment. It is a dubious assertion. Covid and population decline in the developed world accounts for more than all of the alleged net decline.
Additionally, the single most important "mitigation," the transition from coal to natural gas as the largest source of electrical generation was not undertaken as a mitigation but for economic reasons. And has been reversed in Europe over the last four years. Further, the "renewable" energy sources of wind and solar have been net contributors to CO2 emissions so far. Hey Zachriel.... Did you include CHINA when you say HUMANS have decreased CO2 production significantly. China's been very busy building Coal-fired Electric Plants for the last 10-15 years iirc.
James: "Significant" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your comment.
The question concerned projections of atmospheric carbon, which has been significantly reduced due to greener sources of energy. Natural gas has been an important bootstrapping factor. That still counts for falling below projections. James: Further, the "renewable" energy sources of wind and solar have been net contributors to CO2 emissions so far. Carbon payback on wind and solar is usually only 1-2 years. Alpha-Omega: Did you include CHINA when you say HUMANS have decreased CO2 production significantly. We said humans have made significant efforts to reduce their carbon emissions. While emissions continue to climb, they are climbing at much slower rate than without those efforts, which is called "business as usual". The Gore claim was based on if humans did not attempt to reduce carbon emissions, or "business as usual". As for China, they have built out vast supplies of green energy, such China's Changji Hui Prefecture which has 5 GW wind and 10 GW photovoltaic generation. This is combined with a new power storage system capable of stabilizing the system with annual generation of 2.1 billion kWh at 1.2 million kW, transmitted over 2,000 miles on an advanced UHVDC system, from Changj to Guquan. Meanwhile, China is quickly becoming the leader in EV production worldwide. Of course, we can’t expect backward countries such as the US to match China’s technological prowess. But the Americans might learn from others, as China has done. Wonder what China will come up with next! mudbug: I favor a leasing agreement.
The USA already has that. They can set up military bases. They can invest in mining. Of course, some actions have to be approved by Greenland's Inatsisartut and by the Kingdom of Denmark, but that's rather perfunctory. Are we the baddies? According to Grok:
Q: Does the US have a leasing agreement with Denmark regarding Greenland? QUOTE: No, the United States does not have a formal leasing agreement with Denmark regarding Greenland. Instead, U.S. military presence and operations in Greenland (primarily at Pituffik Space Base, formerly known as Thule Air Base) are governed by a long-standing defense agreement under the NATO framework.The key arrangement dates back to the 1951 Defense of Greenland Agreement (signed April 27, 1951, and effective June 8, 1951), between the U.S. and Denmark (as Greenland is Danish territory). This agreement allows the U.S. to establish and operate defense areas in Greenland to assist Denmark in its NATO obligations, while Denmark retains full sovereignty over the island. It provides the U.S. with broad rights to build, maintain, and use military facilities, including Pituffik Space Base, without applying Danish laws or taxation to U.S. personnel on the base.This has been updated over time, including amendments in 2004 (the Igaliku Agreement), which addressed environmental issues, consultations, and cooperation involving Greenland's Home Rule Government (now Self-Government). The base serves critical roles in missile warning, space surveillance, and Arctic security, with a small permanent U.S. presence (around 150 service members as of 2025).Unlike a lease (which typically involves rent payments for temporary use of land), this is a mutual defense pact tied to NATO membership—no direct payments for land use are involved, and the U.S. does not "rent" the territory. Historical wartime arrangements (e.g., 1941 agreement during WWII) were temporary and evolved into this permanent framework.Proposals for the U.S. to purchase or lease Greenland outright (notably revived by President Trump in 2019 and escalated in 2025–2026 with threats of force or other measures) have been repeatedly rejected by Denmark and Greenlandic authorities, who insist the island is not for sale and emphasize self-determination. As of January 2026, no such sale, long-term lease, or transfer of sovereignty has occurred, and the status remains under the existing defense agreement. Discussions in 2025–2026 focused on potential expanded cooperation or tensions, but the core legal basis is still the 1951 pact, not a lease. Q: Is there any agreement between the US and Denmark regarding mining rights? QUOTE: No, there is no formal bilateral agreement between the United States and Denmark that grants the US specific mining rights in Greenland.Greenland, as an autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark, holds authority over its natural resources and mineral licensing under the 2009 Self-Government Act. This means the Greenlandic government (Naalakkersuisut) issues exploration and exploitation licenses for mining through its Mineral Resources Authority, open to international companies—including US firms—under Greenland's Mineral Resources Act. Denmark retains oversight on foreign affairs and defense but does not control mineral rights directly.Key points on US-Denmark/Greenland relations regarding mining:The primary framework is the 1951 Defense Agreement (updated in 2004 via the Igaliku Agreement), which focuses on military presence (e.g., Pituffik Space Base) and NATO-related cooperation. It does not include mining or resource extraction rights. In 2019, during the first Trump administration, the US signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) directly with Greenland (not Denmark) to cooperate on surveying, scientific exchange, and developing rare earth and critical minerals. This MOU emphasized technical knowledge-sharing but did not grant exclusive rights or concessions. Efforts to renew it stalled under the Biden administration, and as of early 2026, it is nearing expiration with no new equivalent in place. US companies can (and do) pursue mining opportunities through standard licensing processes. For example:US-backed or American-involved firms have explored or advanced projects like the Tanbreez rare earth deposit (sold to New York-based Critical Metals Corp in recent years, with US Export-Import Bank providing financing interest in 2025). Discussions have occurred about potential investments, offtake agreements, or infrastructure support, but these are commercial or diplomatic engagements, not binding government-to-government mining rights agreements. There is a profit-sharing mechanism between Greenland and Denmark: Greenland keeps initial revenues from mining, with excess shared (Denmark's share offsets its annual block grant to Greenland). This is internal to the Kingdom of Denmark and does not involve the US. Amid renewed US interest in Greenland (including critical minerals for supply chain security against China), proposals in 2025–2026 have included ideas for expanded cooperation, special concessions, or revenue-sharing in hypothetical deals. However, no such mining-specific bilateral agreement with Denmark exists. Greenland and Denmark have repeatedly emphasized sovereignty, with mining licenses granted competitively (e.g., recent permits to European-backed consortia). In summary, while the US has strong strategic and commercial interests in Greenland's minerals—and pathways exist for investment—no dedicated leasing, exclusive rights, or mining agreement with Denmark is currently in force. Any access occurs through Greenland's open licensing system or potential future partnerships, not a direct US-Denmark treaty on mining rights. mudbug: Does the US have a leasing agreement with Denmark regarding Greenland?
Oh gee whiz. You don't actually rent out countries any more. From your Grok: "provides the U.S. with broad rights to build, maintain, and use military facilities" and "US companies can (and do) pursue mining opportunities through standard licensing processes." So, the United States can station military forces in Greenland. Greenland is under the NATO treaty, so any attack against Greenland would be an attack against NATO, including the United States. Turns out, though, the only country threatening Greenland is the United States. From your Grok: "US companies can (and do) pursue mining opportunities through standard licensing processes." So, United States companies can mine in Greenland. The problem is that mining just hasn't been very profitable in Greenland. (But with global warming, that may change.) But sure, lebensraum. First, you’re the one who said the US already has a leasing agreement.
Why couldn’t Denmark lease Greenland for some period of time?
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mudbug
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2026-01-16 22:04
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mudbug: you’re the one who said the US already has a leasing agreement.
Sorry we were unclear. Thought it was obvious one doesn’t lease countries any more. Because, you know, Greenlanders aren’t slaves to be bought and sold. But sure, lebensraum. The United States could lease military bases in Greenland, but they can already establish military bases without paying for a lease. And mining companies can already license for mining rights. mudbug: [i]Why couldn’t Denmark lease Greenland for some period of time?[/b] Denmark doesn’t own Greenland. The people of Greenland decide their own fate. They have a right, legal and moral, to become independent, but have decided to stay with Denmark for now. What they have made very clear is that they don’t want to be part of America—especially not under threat of military force. The very idea that the United States is threatening to invade Greenland and go to war with Denmark is appalling. What is wrong with them?
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2026-01-16 22:20
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Greenland citizens first have to complete their separation from Denmark. That frees them up from interference from Europe. Then they can negotiate an arrangement with the US.
The "Left", the far left Democrats, are about to become extremely violent again. Their fraud has been exposed and this is the source of hundreds of billions to their far left agenda is being exposed. There illegals that they flooded the country with to replace Americans are being rounded up and deported. And the majority of the country is in favor of all of this so the left will resort to violence once again. Make no mistake this "Left" is a Marxist communist movement and the intend to destroy this country. They were doing it with far left judges and congress people and a president here and there but lately this has been stifled. So they will again resort to violence. It's coming, stay away from crowds.
Boeing knew about flaws....so did the FAA, so did UPS, and so did my former employer FEDEX. A food friend at FEDEX informed me over Christmas that the 25 MD 11's they still had in service had no cracks as they had performed the engineering order to fix the problem. They were grounded for inspection and put back in service. UPS had several of their MD 11's with cracks and had to ground them. There was a similar problem with DC 10's many years ago and we performed a similar modification to correct the problem. The best solution is fix the problem or send the aircraft to the desert.
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