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Friday, February 1. 2013
Lobster dinner, 1955, somewhere in New England, via Shorpy. Where's the wine and beer?
The End of an Era… Patty Andrews of Andrews Sisters dead at 94
“Hey, Uncle, I need a handgun before they’re banned. What do you suggest?”
School choice: Spreading like a prairie fire
I do not want any ethanol in my car, my chain saw, or my outboard engine. None. It's not only damaging - it's insane.
Let’s Be Thankful Obama Won’t Achieve His Dream of Being a Second FDR
Home invasion suspect arrested after woman opens fire
Some Really Inconvenient Truths about gun killings in the US
Biden: Have I mentioned yet that these new gun-control measures won’t fundamentally alter the chances of a mass shooting?
Your Moral And Intellectual Superiors in the media
Detroit Public Schools: Bankrupting Minority Students’ Futures
Dominican prostitute: Sen. Bob Menendez ‘likes the youngest and newest girls’
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Dave Blout: Eagle Nest Sacrificed to Wind Power Idiocy
Right-wingers are cute when they pretend to care about the environment.
Breeding season for bald eagles in Ontario hasn't started yet.
Progressives are cute when they pretend to know anything about production... of anything.
Lefties are cute when they pretend to care about the environment, children, the poor, or world peace.
I know all kinds of blowhards like you, whining about the environment whilst never stepping outdoors for fear of scaring wooden owls.
I, over the course of a lifetime of slaughtering game and pest animals sometimes by the thousands (Argentine doves, etc.), also have contributed, directly or indirectly, tens of thousands of dollars for the reclamation and purchase of wetlands and bighorn sheep range.
Dan Mitchell: Let’s Be Thankful Obama Won’t Achieve His Dream of Being a Second FDR ...That’s bad, but FDR’s statism helped extend the Great Depression – by an additional seven years according to scholarly research! That’s a much worse track record.
Mitchell links to Williams who links to Reed. The vast majority of scholars consider FDR the greatest U.S. President of the twentieth century, leading the U.S. through both the Great Depression and WWII. Reed's work has, should we say, not had any impact in the field. Constantly rewriting history to suit an agenda is not "conservative".
The vast majority of scholars consider FDR the greatest U.S. President of the twentieth centuryReally? Scholars? Do you mean academicians? Because that would be a far cry from scholars...
Most scholars are also academicians, as education is an important part of scholarship. The top few nearly always include Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Franklin Roosevelt. Here's a couple of typical surveys:
We're more concerned with the rewriting of history to suit an agenda.
He was great at getting elected and inspiring hope. He did pretty well with WWII. Otherwise, he was a disaster. He prolonged the Great Depression, started us down the path of the nanny state, and tried to pack the Supreme Court when they didn't vote his way.
Thought we covered this. GDP grew at ≈7% per year from 1933-1939.
1929-1932 Hoover, slow response to financial crisis, economy collapses
1933-1936 New Deal, economy expands
1937 Roosevelt cuts spending to balance budget, economy contracts
1938-1940 Roosevelt reimplements New Deal, economy expands
1941-1945 Great Stimulus of WWII, economy explodes
Sorry. Don't see where we did cover this. May have been on another blog.
It was here. It's the topic that won't stop.
GDP figures are worthless since they can be juiced by govt. spending. Unemployment did not get out of double digits the up till the war and as the war was starting for the US, it was increasing after it dropped (admittedly fairly significantly).
After the war, the Keynesians were adamant that spending must not be drastically reduced and taxes should not be cut. Both of those happened (plus an inflow of 6M new people looking for work) and the economy boomed. Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary, Morgenthau, was right. All that spending didn't do anything for the economy, but as I said previously, at least Roosevelt spent some of it on worthwhile projects (unlike the current president).
Since you don't dispute the other points in my post, I'll assume you agree.
mudbug: GDP figures are worthless since they can be juiced by govt. spending.
U.S. GDP mattered a lot to the Germans and Japanese. It had very real effects.
mudbug: Unemployment did not get out of double digits the up till the war and as the war was starting for the US, it was increasing after it dropped (admittedly fairly significantly).
Yes, the Roosevelt Recession resulted when they cut back the New Deal and tried to balance the budget. It's a direct experiment, as pointed out above.
mudbug: After the war, the Keynesians were adamant that spending must not be drastically reduced and taxes should not be cut.
Keynes indicated that pent-up demand would sustain the economy. In addition, the U.S. didn't simply drop the soldiers into the economy, but kept many on the payroll in Europe and Asia, while slowly filtering others back to the States, along with extensive benefits, for education, business development, housing, and unemployment insurance. All that is Keynesian, and it led to a huge expansion of the middle class, what is now known as the Affluent Society.
mudbug: started us down the path of the nanny state
What may have been the best path at the time, may still lead to other consequences. Most Americans today still consider Social Security as an important program.
mudbug: tried to pack the Supreme Court when they didn't vote his way
Yes, FDR overreached, and was slapped back by a Democratic Congress. He made lots of mistakes because he did lots of things.
Yes GDP numbers can be juiced. That's how "scholars" defend their flawed theories.
In science, we call it fraud.
FDR's wartime performance is blotted out by his disastrous incompetence in mishandling the Japanese, provoking the spread of war into SE Asia and the south Pacific before the US military was able to back his economic sanctions.
the Dear Leader, thankfully, won't have the same opportunity for failure, or he'd probably underperform FDR.
without the war-driven economy and draft, FDR's soviet-style command economy would have continued to stink and demoncraptic-approved unemployment remained at high levels.
Oh please, just give it a rest, will you? It's clear why you were banned from other Web sites in the past.
As it happens I disagree with Mitchell: when it comes to economics Obama IS the second FDR, which explains everything about why the economy has failed to recover from the economic collapse of late 2008. As I've written here before, read Amity Shlaes' book about the Great Depression, "The Forgotten Man," and everywhere in the text replace FDR with BHO. Then you will understand why the economy is taking so long to recover. The Democrats, true statists and Keynesians that they have always been, are repeating the same mistakes FDR made in the 1930s. They have learned nothing; they are incapable of learning. Schlaes wrote her book well before Obama started his run for national office. It turns out she was not only an engaging writer of our nation's history but a prophet of the pain and misery to come under Obama.
Agent Cooper: Then you will understand why the economy is taking so long to recover.
Think about it. The market crash was in 1929. The economy went into a downward spiral that lasted until 1933. That is hardly the fault of Roosevelt or his policies.
I make it a firm practice never to read any comment that begins with "think about it." Could there be a more condescending opening, and one less likely to signal a useful point to come?
Stupid wind farms. We've driven across country several times in the last four years and half of them are dead still, but the ones that work are slaughtering birds, hummingbirds, bats and insects necessary to maintain environmental balance.
Love the bird ballet, however.
James Pethokoukis: Is Marco Rubio Really About to Ruin the Republican Party?
James Pethokoukis: Rubio isn’t selling a political solution. He’s offering only an opportunity.
The basic idea of a two-party system is that coalitions form around the parties before elections. (In a parliamentary system, parties usually form ruling coalitions after the election.) These coalitions that make up the two parties are not set in stone, and if one party becomes too dominant, a number of factors tend to move against it; including overreach, detachment, sloth, and sclerosis. This, in turn, results in the forces of renewal growing in the opposing party.
FDR's greatness is hardly disputed; he was of great consequence without a doubt.
What is increasingly in dispute --and Zach can't dispute this, it is evident everywhere one opens the topic --is how much of the great FDR activity was devoted to repairing FDR damage.
I like Amity Shlaes on the debate.
...for one thing, she is really cute. For another, she is high scholarship and low editorial --and thus ideal for sweeping out the cobweb of FDR fantasy the public schools eight-legged it out of WWII weaving.
Something about the folks in the illo is really striking --at least for this front-boomer. Those are the Giant People from my oldest memory reel.
When I stood there, quaking chin resting on the tabletop, making some mewling pitiful disgraceful illegitimate emergency request, those were the fierce and amused giant faces staring down at me, plucking a tongue-stuck shred of Pall Mall or Lucky Strike, looking like Ann Landers and mid-career Anthony Hopkins, and to all intents and purposes the very embodiments of power, permanence and indestructability.
buddy larsen: she is high scholarship and low editorial
From the description, her book is primarily not a economic treatise, but individual lives during the period. Publishers: "This is plausible history, if not authoritative, novel or deeply analytical."
If there was a way to damn her, they wouldn't have to do it with faint praise, would they?
Check out her archive and then come back and tell me she is a lightweight.
buddy larsen: Check out her archive and then come back and tell me she is a lightweight.
From the link, none of her articles or books were scholarly, meaning published before peers. One essay was published by the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think-tank. There's nothing wrong with publishing in the popular press, but doesn't in-and-of-itself indicate any heavy lifting.
Her ideas seem interesting, but clearly viewed through a particular prism, and probably not providing or even meant to provide a full picture. We do agree with this sentiment, "In her telling, policymakers of the 1920s weren't so incompetent as they're often made out to be—everyone in the 1930s was floundering and all made errors".
ok, Zach --i'll call that a stand-off (the lack of the usual gush of favorable peer review of popular biography from within the academy makes its own clarion call re FDR-negative authors, but i won't push the surmise, no matter how truthy it is), and say that i do appreciate at least your discipline in trying to answer your interrogators.
Birds--Like a school of fish in the sky.
Wind Farms: Destroyers of flying things, uneconomical at providing power; no wonder the greenies love them.
Ethanol Deathmatch: Costs more, bad for people (food prices), bad for engines--what's NOT to love for the greenies?
Skeet Shoot: Says there's a pic of Obama holding a rifle--makes shooting skeet really hard and downrange really unsafe.
FDR 2: Sunstein wrote: The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation.
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation.
The right of every family to a decent home.
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health.
The right to a good education.
Well, Obama's done a crappy job on the first two, and I keep reading our big cities, and smaller ones, are doing a crappy job on the last one (see the Detroit Public Schools piece). That 'decent home' riff seems to have helped cause the housing bubble and its collapse. And regulation and Obamacare are killing the 4th one. Bummmmmmmer!
What did the fish say when he ran into a concrete wall?
ok, when you finish laughing, take a look at this --talk about buried ASAP Stanford published it!
tHE ENTIRE RAISON D'TERE obliterated to smithereens --and nobody evens knows it!
The counter revolution needs to start where this pitiful mess started --at the HQs of the MSM.
oops, heh heh, (blush)
Where does one find gasoline with no ethanol? I'd love to keep that stuff away from my small engines.
You have to find the 'non oxygenated' blend. I think there's a locator site for these, Google it.
They're hard to find in the Atlanta area, but all over the place in Minnesota. That's the only gas you want to put into your collector car, boat, snow mobile, motor cycle, Jet Ski, tractor, etc.
FDR's greatest accomplishment was staffing the government with communists who stole our secrets including the atomic bomb, created policies which created the cold war and causing wars around the world which killed tens of thousands of our soldiers. Yeah he was the best president ever and I have no doubt left wing experts love him.
id-de-Camp at his ear and elbow through the Casablaca and Yalta conferences that in fact designed the Iron Curtain and the Cold War, one Alger Hiss, who at FDR's request also designed the structure of the new United Nations, and was appointed America's first Ambassador to it.
When outed (by fellow-traveler-turned-whistleblowing anti-communist Whittaker Chambers) as a spy, a communist, an agent, and a member of Josef Stalin's personal staff, a law firm that sprang to the Hiss defense was Covington & Burling --of which Eric Holder is (or was if he had to step away during his DOJ sojourn) a partner, and whose staff furnished nearly all of your current DOJ legal staffing. A very Cagey Bee, the Att'y General.
I just came back from a search for the sun and on my way went through Palm Springs. There are probably well over 1000 bird blenders (windmills) in that pass and on the East side of the pass. Each of these windmills will in their lifetime create less energy then it took to build, install and maintain them. They cannot ever pay for themselves. So why do we continue to add windmills at great expense and great waste? Because of crony politics. Someone's hands get crossed with silver and in return tens of thousands of voters vote for the politicians wasting your tax money.
That's why way back into history among almost all royal lineages outside the Latin Alphabet, court administrators were preferably eunuchs.