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Tuesday, November 8. 2011Doc's Computin' Tips: TreeSize
1987: Ah, I remember it well. I was on my Amiga computer, and while I'd been flying high with two, count them, two floppy disk drives, I couldn't wait to try out one of them new-fangled "hard drives" I'd been hearing about. The question was whether to spend $650 on the medium-sized 20-meg Supra, or blow the wad and spend $925 on the gigantic 30-meg Synergy. I decided that I'd had enough of running out of disk space, so I opted for the big guy, figuring that'd take care of my disk space problems, once and for all. 1988: Repeat above paragraph. 1990, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2002, 2005, 2008: Repeat above paragraph. 2010: This was when I finally, thankfully, gratefully bought one of those incredibly huge terabyte drives, figuring that'd take care of my disk space problems, once and for all. Yesterday:
"AAAA-A-A-A-A-A-A-ACK!" It was my C Drive, which normally has about 6 gigs free, so the trick was to find out where the log jam was, since Windows doesn't have a "Show the size of every file & folder in the system" tool. So I dug through the archives and came up with little TreeSize. I ran the program and there, buried 327 folders deep in the 'Users' folder, was a gigantic 6-gig image file from a partition I'd backed up a few days earlier. I'd just overlooked the 'Target' setting and by default it wrote it to the 'Users' folder. So thank you, little TreeSize. You might want to grab it while it's up for the grabbing and stick it to the side for come that day. Some other freebies I like: AutoSizer — Pops open a program, like a browser, in full-screen mode, or in a certain location on the screen. Apart from the browsers, I use it for ill-behaved programs like Calculator which open up wherever they damn well please, forcing them to open in the middle of the screen like a good, proper program should. Cool Timer — A Desktop countdown timer/stopwatch. The default garish cerise color is so loud and awful (not to mention incredibly uncool) that you'll want to leave it that way, just to say "I was there." Lets you select from a variety of nasty, cruel, ear-splitting sounds to remind you it's time to take the laundry out of the washer. I like 'fog horn' because it makes my teeth rattle. Super Finder — A superb file-finder. Lets you filter out file types to save time, searches for both file names and does in-depth searches, and the found files are actually the files, not just a generated list, so you can use the right mouse options on them like normal. CCleaner — I'd call this a 'feel-good' program. It probably doesn't make the slightest damb difference if a little trash is swept out of the system and the size of the Registry is reduced 0.8%, but it certainly feels good doing it. The Rename — A batch file renamer, like for organizing the names of the hundreds of thousands of pics in your And a few Windows 7 tools: FileMenu Tools — Gets rid of entries in the right-mouse-button Context Menu. ShellMenuNew — Gets rid of entries in the 'New' menu. My Win7 tweak page is here.
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Hey Doc,
Thanks for the tips. I have to say your first hard disk was a lot cheaper than my first one. Back in 1983 or 4 I got a 23 MB hard disk for my Zenith Z-100 for $1800 installed (it was 10% off). At the time, it was a similar price as the 20 MB disks for IBM PC XTs were going for, but that changed quickly and IBM disks got cheaper very quickly... Muds -
"my Zenith Z-100 for $1800 installed" (Doc prepares to make some snide remark about 'Oh, installed, I see' when he suddenly realizes the drive might have needed to be soldered in.) Thanks for making my $925 drive seem cheap in comparison. I owe you $875 worth of happy thoughts. The primaries are inconclusive, the convention in August is in turmoil, when suddenly Sarah Palin steps forth and elected the next president of the United States. Okay, we're even. :) Thanks for making my $925 drive seem cheap in comparison. I owe you $875 worth of happy thoughts.
No problem, Doc! Keep the happy thoughts. This one was on me! From C-Net? Highly doubtful. If those guys ever distributed some malware, their legal ass would be in a sling. I installed it on a test system and ZoneAlarm said it's okay. Instead of "malware", AGW should have said, "Warning! Was written by some regular dude, probably in goddamn college!" He probably didn't cross some 't' or dot some 'i' and AGW got confoosed. Get what you pay for, remember.
my AVG reported what others have complained about on CNET. Read the same comments there.
I didn't see any comments on either site, but C-Net is notorious for being paranoid about malware, as is Download.com. An anti-spyware program issuing an alarm over some program written by some single dude isn't anything new. I can think of three such programs on my system that either ZoneAlarm or Windows Defender will quarantine unless they're headed off, RegCheck (Registry checker), a program to read "*******" passwords with the brilliant name of Revelation, and a DOS command that starts programs in minimized mode. ZoneAlarm doesn't like the first two, Defender doesn't like the DOS program. Both think CoolTimer is the cat's ass because of the awesome cerise color.
If you want to repeat the cost history, you should be starting in SSD drives :0. And I recall working with a 4 GB drive that was a cabinet full of smaller drives. i wonder what happened to that company?
Thanks, Doc. TreeSizeFree is a better utility than the ones I had found which do the same thing, only much slower.
Wonder why the Germans are so good at things like this? Another way to find big files (but not directories) is defragment the drive. A big file's name is on the legend a long time.
fidbox.dat, for example, if you've ever used one of a family of anti virus etc, for instance zone alarm. It grows slowly and indefinitely. See? $ fidbox.sh -rwxrwx---+ 1 Administrators SYSTEM 22104096 Nov 8 13:42 /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.dat remove y or n only works in safe mode f8 on boot That's in a month or so. My only thought was, "Good thing we're not back in the FAT32 days." :)
HD's are double expensive right now because half the world's production capacity is underwater in Thailand. You're competing with manufacturers trying to buy up stock to keep assembly lines running.
SSD's incidentally are expected to go bad after a certain number of writes. Avoid them if you're expecting HD longevity from them. Parts go bad, that's why writes move around to even out use over the available space and some spare space is put aside. I've had hard disks go bad, I don't know that SSD lifetimes are expected to be much worse in practice. And the speed is quite nice for some things, although you won't notice it when typing up a comment for Maggie's.
Doc, I think I've got some sort of malware that's piggybacked on my browser (Firefox). Keeps trying to redirect pages. Browser's security settings keep blocking it, but they're all re-directs from the same web address.
Where can I look, after one of these failed re-directs, to discover what program/script/other just ran to make the re-direct, so I can find and excise it? Oh and I don't know if I thanked you earlier, but after visiting your web page about optimizing system performance & taking various steps you recommended, things are running much better. So thanks!! I like ESET for my antivirus. Not free, but it's found some nasties that Norton missed and is proactive about keeping stuff off. This is the antiviral I put on my Mom's system to keep her computer-problem calls to a minimum.
I believe you can download the software for a try before you buy. Good luck! TK - Well, 'you' probably can't look anywhere, in the sense that it's probably buried deep in the Registry or disguised as an innocent-looking file. It'll have to be pried out with a professional program, if it can even be that. You could start with AGW, which is the best of the freeware anti-malware programs, I use ZoneAlarm and others swear by Norton, McAfee, Panda and Bit Defender. But, as noted, none of them are guaranteed to excise the little rascal, and if it's one of the new 'smart' viruses, it won't even allow a new anti-malware program to be installed. A buddy's computer had one of those a few years ago and both ZoneAlarm and Norton froze in their tracks during the install. Had to reinstall Windows.
And I'm glad the tweaks page helped. The biggest thing, as noted, are the cursed pre-loaders that gobble up system resources. Just getting people to clean up that list is probably worth as much as everything else on the page put together. Let me know what happens on the ever-exciting virus front. I already had McAfee installed, so whatever it is sneaked past that. Otherwise it's not interfering with anything else, so far as I can see. Doesn't constantly try to redirect everything; just now and then. Tries to direct my attention towards one or another commercial site/trap.
Hmm. Thanks for the tips; I'll let you know what develops. Doc, did you mean "AGW" or "AVG" for that free anti-malware software?
A good question. "AGW" would be a 'natural' means of removing the virus, as the increasing heat of the planet slowly melts your computer into a puddle. For more immediate needs, AVG is a popular freeware anti-malware program, and the reviewers speak quite highly of it, but it'd be semi-doubtful it'd find something that McAfee doesn't. But, one ne'er can tell. Given the price, it's worth a shot.
Side questions: - Is your McAfee "anti-virus" software, or "anti-malware"? There's a dif. In general, anti-virus software would just detect something already on the computer, whereas anti-malware software also detects possibly malicious web sites and such and is better at removing things like what you have, which aren't actually "viruses" by definition, since they're not doing anything destructive, just, uh, being helpful. - Have you manually updated the virus definitions, set whatever options there are to 'Max' and done a manual scan? Cygwin. All those lovely free Linux utilities on Windows.
to find your huge files in a directory: du -a | sort -nr | more TheRename looks good, valuable. I use a differently-styled renamer, but everyone should have some package for this task, or even several for different uses.
TreeSize? OK. But on XP, I had "FolderSize" which just puts a column on the Explorer page, like the usual size column for files. Alas, not available for Win7. I may re-learn the "dir" command options to show directory sizes, large files, etc - but yes, it would just be a list. Also - SuperFinder? Nice, but many options were in the usual "search" prior to Win7 then disappeared, such as return only folders, or only videos, or you could even do dir-command stuff like "??ab*.txt" - all gone in Win7 for some reason. I recall that, while in high school, I had to punch Hollerith cards to run a program on an IBM 1401.
Count your blessings (digitally). What, no tails about how you had to pay 500 bux for an 80 gig HD because nobody needs a TB drive for 50?
Doc, there's some scuttlebut on the web that Acronis used to be better than it is now, that it has been "simplified" for a wider audience by removing some of its previous tech features. Any truth?
For what is available now, do you recommend the 2011 or 2012 version of True Image? And if the older versions really are more robust, where might they be found? Add my thanks to those above for your tips! The Old Guy Old Guy -
First off, does Tom know you're stealing his schtick by using that handle? From what Bruce said, Tom is older than dirt, and he might be pretty upset to think someone's coming along trying to usurp him of his crown. As to your question, no, just the opposite. Acronis has done nothing but add new features and tools over the years. And, besides, for something as straightforward as a disk backup, what's wrong with simplifying the procedure? The only place where I've seen them 'over-simplify' it is the box where you add a comment describing the file. It's now a link and has to be accessed separately, which means it often goes unused, but that's an important feature and shouldn't have been relegated to the sidelines. As for the current version, traditionally Acronis screws up the odd-numbered versions and then gets back on track with the even-numbered versions. Whether or not they're holding to this grand tradition, I don't know. If you already have a version, then obviously that's good enough. If not, then I'd go for the even-numbered 2012 version, just to be on the safe side. And, in all fairness, as much as I like TrueImage and have never had a problem with it (using only even-numbered versions, of course), I have to admit that Windows System Restore probably works just as well, and there are scads of freebie imaging programs out there. So it might be an interesting project to take a few of them out for a spin and see what happens. Let me know what you end up with and why. I've had a long interest in the subject. Back in the days before imaging programs came out, I used to boot up with an alternate drive and use WinRar to make backups of the C Drive. But it was still file-by-file and thus exceptionally slow compared to the 'sector writes' that imaging programs use. Dunno about Tom, Doc -- only that I ain't he. (My Christian name is John, although my wife prefers to use its Gaelic version.) We're in parallel universes, perhaps? My use goes back at least twenty years, when I used it as part of a DECnet node name on a MicroVAX. Back then I was doing image backups on a TU78 (? memory is the second thing to go, and I've alredy forgotten the first -- anyway, the 9-track drive enclosed in a coffin standing on end.)
I had used one of the Windows freebie backup utilities recently, but found I could not get at individual files on the image (the way I used to be able to with VMS Backup). Your mention of getting at those files is what has convinced me to go with Acronis, and I will take your advice and go with the 2012 version. Thanks again, Doc, The Old Guy (a month ago, Tom Francis, one of our bloggers, left a comment in one of Bruce's posts and Bruce referred to him as a "fellow 'Nam veteran" and I've been ribbing poor Tom about being older than Father Time ever since.)
And you're right, I'd forgotten about the ability to grab individual files from the image files, which I imagine Windows Restore and the freebie programs don't do. With True Image, you just double-click on the image's icon and it opens like a regular window. You can't actually do anything to the file, but you can copy it to a fresh folder, obviously a BIG time-saver. My thanks to Tom, and to Bruce, on this auspisious day (which my mother insisted on calling Armistice Day, long after the official name change).
I grew up between wars (just missed Korea, and had a wife and three kids by the time Viet Nam was ramping up). My sincere thanks to all those who stood in the gap for me. The Old Guy |

